“It was good to talking to Kathy in this episode, to get her perspective and insights on a topic that I think is often overlooked when it comes to leadership development and culture transformation, i.e. the need for discrete, objective plans, goals, and measures to guide one in the process of transforming oneself or one’s organization.”

-Amir Ghannad, Host

Amir Ghannad, host of The Transformative Leader podcast, invited our CEO, Kathy Bowman Atkins, on his show to discuss the importance of strategic planning and leadership development, even when you feel your company is doing fine without.

Listen to the podcast episode